Video Of The Week: Voice Assistant Infinite Loop

This video was left in the comments to my post about doing a side by side comparison of Google Home and Amazon Echo. It’s fun and I thought I’d make sure everyone sees it by elevating it to the main page.

#voice interfaces

Comments (Archived):

  1. William Mougayar

    Well, it’s cheaper than a parrot. Cost of feeding a parrot: $200-400/year.Average life expectancy: 25-50 years. You do the math. At least, both parrots and voice assistants are available in the Amazon, jungle or store.

    1. Twain Twain


        1. Twain Twain

          Thanks for sharing!Two years ago I had an idea for retail clothing with smart price tags.The Amazon Go technology is doable because there are now RFID tags on packaging that synch with mobile. It’s easier with grab+go fmcg.

        2. Lawrence Brass

          Absolutely awesome but, I have to see it first to believe it. There is a wall between experiments and proofs of concept run on highly controlled lab environments and the real thing with lots of nodes and RF signal interference, lag, etc.Anyway, this is the future.

  2. OurielOhayon

    and then siri would have broken the loop

  3. Vendita Auto

    Strange how the wires seem to offend my eye

  4. LE

    This is strange but yesterday no new post on AVC showed up the entire day for me and even this morning.Then when this post showed up the one from yesterday (with 44 comments) showed up.This was consistent on multiple browsers and computers and even on mobile that I checked. I am thinking it has something to do with cloudflare caching … I can’t think of any other reason.It happened before at least 1 time, a few weeks ago maybe even more times.

    1. William Mougayar

      I think Fred is aware of this issue, and this happens to me often when the only way to get to a new post is to click on the email notification link, because it doesn’t appear on until much later.

      1. LE

        The other thing that I have noticed is that comments on don’t show up ever on mobile. You have to click a link at the bottom to (like you are saying) get to a story and the comments. Simply going to the actual page doesn’t even bring up the comments.

        1. jason wright

          I see the gg comments.

          1. LE

            That one appears to be a caching issue on safari browser on iphone (in my case). In order to fix I have to clear the cache and all files. The problem is a typical user isn’t going to do that and further doing it will blow out everything and things you need. And to do it for one particular site (when you are not even sure it’s an issue if nothing appears how do you know why?) requires doing something like this:http://apple.stackexchange….

          2. jason wright

            i’m on Android and a Chromebook. what can i say? :)I could say “we all make choices” 😉

          3. Lawrence Brass

            It is probably a caching issue, but I think it is a server side problem because I checked several browsers in windows, linux an osx and all gave the same results, not showing the post. Badly generated http headers related to caching is my first guess.

    2. jason wright

      I see. Same exact experience here. Bluehost?

      1. LE

        I don’t think it’s the hosting it makes more sense that it would be the content delivery and/or the interaction between cloudflare and the hosting company. However w/o access to log files you can’t be certain (like cockpit voice recorders and black boxes). I’ve run into a great deal of weird stuff over the last 21 years it’s actually fun to hunt down this type of thing but time consuming. Especially if the problem is intermittent.

  5. jason wright

    Apple was there first. One Infinite Loop…of mediocrity.Edit:… of expensive mediocrity.

    1. Lawrence Brass

      Just this week I saw my youngest grand daughter grabbing an iPad 1, the same my elder grand daughter discovered years ago, the same that was the spark of this crazy thing I am doing today. No battery problems after 6+ years of use, no explosions, some bruises in the aluminium shell but no cracks. Some issues because Apple abandoned them and never updated the OS again, that has more to do more with greed than mediocrity imo. But mediocrity? Not Apple in my experience. Consistent quality and market awareness, that is why they are were they are.I am not a fan because I use and code for almost every OS and platform regulary so I think, or like to think I am being fair.

      1. jason wright

        I just dislike drug dealers. ditto Google.

  6. jason wright

    https://uploads.disquscdn.c…any excuse to post my very recent monochromatic artsy shot… and i’ll take it :)but why do we need another piece hardware cluttering up our lives to enjoy Alexa? isn’t Alexa’s software algo. going to be in many mobile phones quite soon?

  7. Scott Barnett

    What I enjoy is when I’m at home talking to a friend about Alexa, and she decides to join in the conversation…

  8. mikenolan99

    If I were writing for SNL, I’d have a bit where the cast is constantly saying things like “Alexa, set my alarm for 4am” and “Hey Google, play Season’s in the Sun, Volume 9”

  9. Kirsten Lambertsen

    The light up ring around Amazon device would win me over, vs the less soothing/pleasing look of the lights on the Google device. Both companies need to keep putting resources into the visual feedback as much as the rest of the product. I mean, seriously. I want a talking lava lamp, not a talking humidifier.

    1. Lawrence Brass

      A lava lamp that would understand moods hearing voices and sounds around and change accordingly. I want one!

      1. Kirsten Lambertsen

        Kind of close :-)…

  10. Steven Kane

    of course watching this video set off a chain reaction with my alexa 🙂

  11. William Mougayar

    Yup, I think the Machine to Machine testing slipped off their mind. I hope that self-driving cars will negotiate better with each other, or we will have infinite loop gridlocks.

  12. PhilipSugar

    It has always been this way. One of my best programmers took down a big phone system with a recursive loop. For the history of machines recursive loop’s have always been the weak point. That is the power of the human mind. It can break a recursive loop.

  13. jason wright

    when speech that triggers Alexa comes out of a machine’s speaker it could be tagged with an ultrasonic pulse to mute a response. the pulse would be above human hearing. sell the dog first though.

  14. LE

    I hope that self-driving carsEveryday all I see is examples [1] of how that idea is something cooked up by people with plenty of time and money on their hands who need the next hit of adrenaline. What’s sad is how they are getting the traditional car companies to spend resources to keep up with the joneses. It’s sad because there is not unlimited money and resources to go after pipe dreams that will take so many years to actually provide any benefit. And the entire idea that it will get better with time implies that there will be people who will suffer consequences by being on the bleeding edge of this. Lastly, my bias. I actually like driving a car! And shifting it as well (7 speed in one the other only comes w/o)[1] By this I mean situations where a human’s common sense is needed and not machine learning ai or whatever.

  15. William Mougayar

    they need to blacklist each other. just as in real life, Amazon competes with Google in more ways than one 🙂

  16. jason wright

    i thought they colluded on so many things behind the scenes. certainly on wage rates for H1B visa employees they can have kicked out of the country in 14 days for refusing to work as indentured 21st century tech slaves. the oligopolists are alive and well.

  17. William Mougayar

    yup, this all needs iterations. maybe self-driving cars shouldn’t start on the highways at 60 mph where accidents are mostly fatal, but rather start in areas where the speed limit is under 40 mph. I can imagine future community areas to be marked as driverless zones, where you park your 7 speed car outside and move into a self-driving car, at the same speed as anyone else. just speculation and imagination on my part.

  18. LE

    Back with the Dec 10 at Wharton in Vance Hall I was hauled into the computer center directors office (Dave Cossey) because I sucked up 1/2 of all of the time with a loop. He said. The thing was I did it on purpose. I have this strange like of the hum of a motor or just something that runs and runs. There was no purpose for the loop other than to just run and consume. He thought I was selling computer time to others. At the time Eric Raymond was a T/A. I say that as if it is something important…. https://uploads.disquscdn.c

  19. Lawrence Brass

    I recall doing an infinite loop in a DEC VAX 11/780 a long time ago. Accounts had printer quotas. So I approached the small window to get the output of my programming 101 assignment and was handled a big slab of line printer paper all printed with a’s : “a a a a a a a a a a a……”, it was heavy!I heard “your account is supended” as the small window slammed. Got a 2 on the assignment and a lot of stupid jokes from my mates. I felt miserable.

  20. PhilipSugar

    Remember all of those flags??? Somebody took them but I think the staute of limitations is over.